​The Deaf and The Musician explore the challenges of interpretation and communication by capturing metaphor in lyrics through the translation of original music into sign language. Artists Cindy and Ben discuss their work and why they'll be playing at the Sober Show.​

• Songwriter

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The Deaf and The Musician

​Tonebenders, for their 50th episode, Stories of Audio Glory!, interviewed some of their listeners and some industry veterans to tell about their best days on the job, including me and my stories.

Interviews

  Salt Lake City, Utah

Originals

Interviews

As The Deaf and The Musician, we translate my originals into sign language, exploring the challenges of interpretation and capturing metaphors in lyrics, while learning some useful sign gestures that can make all of us communicate a little better.​

Watch our videos of The Deaf performing The Musician's originals in sign language

Enjoy live performances of the sights of The Deaf and the sounds of The Musician

​John Sheridan and I did a Music, Philosophy & More interview, a livestream discussion philosophizing on music, musicians connections, the tools of social media, originals vs covers, comedy, sign language, being authentic and more.

Originals

• Producer

Sign Language

​Cindy & Ben pay a visit to Weirdo Parade to talk about music, disability, and Wonderwall.

Covers

• Singer

Covers